Curious, you got your ‘Hey so’ in front of your dumbass comment but you didn’t end it in ‘btw’, you’re not gonna measure up to the rest of the obnoxious brainless TikTokers
But, to clarify:
-No one is obligated to take your impromptu and frankly harebrained assumptions at face value, even disregarding the fact that they’re dumb as shit and only make sense to children like you
-The comment was making fun of said assumptions, not of the subject of cp. Your asinine conclusions are not entitled to whatever dignity their subject is. You don’t get to lay claim to reverence by wielding ‘de sieryes dopigcks!!!1’ That’s the same kind of pathetic logic the fucking My Immortal author used. That’s the level you’re on, you self-important child.
-Humor related to ‘serious topics’ does not indicate a lack of awareness of the realness of the issue if it literally harnesses that gravity towards its humor. Just because you assume that it can only come from and/or cause an inherent ignorance of the subject doesn’t mean that that’s true.
-Don’t fucking dictate morality to other people when you have the brain of a 16 year old girl with more self-importance than she’s worthy of.
Y’know, some of these comments are exactly the reason why people online never admit fault. Because even when people are willing to surrender their egos for just a moment, and go out of their way to admit their faults, just to rectify them, they still get a peanut gallery of absent-minded kids saying these generic lines–tailed with something like ‘man’ to make them feel more urbane and lovable–to preach to the flagellant or to curry favor with the general audience, when if they had the slightest bit of insight they’d see that the person willingly exhuming and atoning for their own wrongs is actively and actually addressing the issue much more than the person with no emotional stakes or involvement who take solace in the fact that they’re the people who this isn’t about so they need not worry about accepting any blame, idly braying platitudes in order to sound ‘knowing’ and ‘socially conscious’.
It already feels degrading to admit being wrong, to put yourself in a posture of penitent supplication in front of thousands, but to have to put up with a host of putti looking down at you and patronizing you as if the reason they have nothing yet to feel guilty for is because they’re superior and not because they haven’t had the social opportunities, been through the same situations, even been through high school, sounds like an experience that would drive me straight to being an Onision-tier delusional narcissist, just so I never have to deal with an elementary class on a field trip that sees a man already down with guilt and in the mud and thinks it’ll make them more righteous if they spit on him. When it proves nothing of themselves, except their expedience in finding a chance to look good in front of the crown of fellow alphoomers. That they know how to signal their righteousness to everybody. Good for them.
Imagine a game where you get two pistols with infinite ammo, shoot at Slenderman but have to blink like SCP: Containment Breach because if you stare at him for more than eight sustained seconds you start taking damage rapidly, and he has 8100 health and your pistol shots do two damage at once, but whenever Slenderman in on screen a midi trumpet cover of Public Enemy from Devil May Cry 1 starts playing and if you shoot perfectly to the groove then you continuously do more damage, up to 100 per shot
And in the sequel, you read “In my silent dreams, I see that teenager, Restless Phil” and you get stalked by a .png of Phil from the Nutshack, and you collect 40 benadryls for Spunch Bob (you find them in packets of 5) and when he gets them all his head explodess outward gorily as the sole beatable enemy in the game, a single Necromorph, like from Dead Space, bursts out, and you kill it by punching it with only your right hand, 100 times in a row without getting hit once
And then in the third game, you’re a dog that tries to clear a mountain, Getting Over It-style, and you do so by flipping your front and back legs forward and backward, as well as contracting and then releasing your contraction in an elastic sort of way, both vertically and horizontally, and you get stalked by Sl’Edna’Man, a faceless version middle-aged woman named Edna, who has Arnold Schwarzeneggar’s body, from the neck down, growing from the neck down from the base of her spine, and said body is wearing a thong with a huge bulge
I’m gonna be honest, I’d have more respect for critics if they could just take a look at something that’s edgier than they’d like and say openly that it’s not for them in that fashion, that it’s not to their tastes, rather than reflexively patronizing the edgy media by comparing it to something a teenager would make.
It seems really insecure how the first thing channels like you reach for is that, because as much as “you’re just a pansy” can equally be a copout for vapid edge, it genuinely seems that way when your first inclination is talking down to the artist like you just changed their diaper. Some people like edge. Some people have that taste. You can be grown and still like something that might be silly or tastless, but it really seems like only someone who “can’t take” edge has to reflexively minimize the person at the other end of the artistic expression, because they know they, themselves, are small for being unable to take it. Whereas if you could just civilly say “I don’t really like this sort of thing” and preserve your own dignity while also not attacking that of the artist, rather than being demeaning or, as some people in some cases have done, tried starting a moral crusade about “exploiting sensitive topics”, both of which ring of genuine fragility.
Don’t bet on it. Literally every time an alternate platform opens up, the first people on it are the sort that are the first people banned from any other platform (let’s call them ‘edgelords’), and they in turn are used as a subject of propaganda by people who are simultaneously weak-bowelled and petulantly entitled to other people being subject to the conditions of their weakness, saying “Look, here are the kinds of people who want free expression. Is that you? Most people who want free expression want freedom to express themselves in ways that I and my fellow adult toddlers don’t like, so you shouldn’t be in favor of it.” and those people whinetimidate the average person out of migrating to freedom. Meanwhile the average person has in any case internalized the abject infantilism that they’ve been subjected to by Internet nannies.
You know, the law of double jeopardy exists because, among other reasons, there should be defined and bounded punishments for a crime which, once decided, are by definition the bounds to what the perpetrator should suffer for what they’ve done. Mature and measured people made this law.
And then self-righteous manchildren on the Internet act like if someone is guilty of something deemed ‘really bad and icky’*, it’s perpetually a sign and act of righteousness to pile on more grandstanding, hostility and alienation, whether or not that person has received the punishment deemed commensurate to what they did – because all the manchildren can think of is that it’s really bad and icky and that’s all that matters. They lack the maturity to comprehend that a punishment is meant to penalize the crime, and serve as payment for it, and also exist in potentia for those who might commit it, as a deterrent, they lack the maturity to see that punishment corresponds to crime, all they see is that “PERSON DID BAD THING AND SO IS BAD AND TO BE BAD TO THEM IS GOOD AND IF YOU DEFEND THEM YOU MUST BE BAD TOO” because they are children and their own kneejerk emotional response is all that matters to them.
Mature people see that punishment fits crime and that living under the effects of a punishment (assuming an ideal legal system(which is a heavy assumption)) is the just consequence that fulfills the debt of a crime. Mantoddlers thinks that if the degree of a crime is bad enough, then it becomes righteous to punish it perpetually – even, ironically, to a point which surpasses the degree of the crime, because it feels emotionally difficult to them to understand that just because someone did the big bad thing that they feel like a good big boy for railing against, there is a finite degree to what the people who are on this earth can subject each other to on account of their misdeeds, and that the degree of wrongdoing only determines the finite amount, not hoping to diminish its finitude.
All this to say-- –
While I don’t think you should handle wibbow baby predators’ feelings with velvet gloves, the notice on the first subreddit was, (even if written like bad fanfiction) justified. And people who think endless railing of moral easy targets is an easy path to showing how virtuous they are are legitimately mental minors, because they can’t comprehend morality more complex than “I’m good for showing how much I don’t like bad things and people that do them”. And, I’m gonna be honest, calling them all ‘monsters’ is just using ‘really hard cooore, man’ language to cover up that same mix of “UGUUU IT’S ICKY AND I DON’T LIKE IT” and “I’M RICKY RIGHTEOUSKEYBOARD AND I’M HERE TO TELL YOU I DON’T LIKE BAD THINGS”. They’re just lowlives. Don’t gas them up for free.
*for the people who are going to misinterpret my comment intentionally so they can break their Nintendo Switches over me (hundreds of hours of Zelda lost), I’m using infantile language here because these ‘moral easy targets’ are more based on what’s emotionally discomforting or what’s more in the zeitgeist to hate, rather than what a developed moral system would have to say. If a woman killed her husband with poison in the past because of divorce being practically illegal, you’d cheer, but it’s still murder, it’s still ending an entire life just to improve the quality of another in some way.
This talking point is so fucking stupid. Just because a man is raised right doesn’t erase the ones who weren’t. It’s stupid to expect that. It’s also stupid to subject everyone to your patronizing whining because of that fundamental truth.
And if someone saying that something might be a liability because of how someone might act is an excessive imposition because they _shouldn’t,_ then why do you leave your doors unlocked at night? After all, people _shouldn’t_ burgle houses. And yet, they do, and no one uses the existence of burglary as a crime as a sanctimonious justification to talk to an entire hemisphere of the human race like a toddler whose diaper they just changed.
It ignores also that half the time, when most people say that, they’re people talking about their moral/religious principles – which might be somewhat dumb to force onto people who don’t share those principles, but it has nothing to do with suggesting that a victim proactively generated the crime. It’s just the speaker’s values.
This talking point only makes sense if you don’t think about it, and its only benefit, if you can call it that, is giving some Buzzfeed feminist who thinks she’s Mary Poppins the right to patronize people while actively suppressing genuine advice for staying safe because girls ‘shouldn’t’ need it.
maybe you should post context of what you replied to
Good thing we have Original Opinions Orville who definitely didn’t get his very original criticism from Reddit like a baby bird getting mouthfed by its mother, speaking with the tacit assumption that shock value is inherently a lesser form of entertainment because the Nintendo Switch acolytes who he definitely didn’t get all his opinions from are upset by it. It’s good that he came in to save the day by repeating this very original criticism here, I mean the world would end if that exact thing that’s been regurgitated literally every other fucking place this series has been mentioned were FAILED to be regurgitated here!
You don’t know him. You just have an inclination to be condescending because you think that acting as if you’re above him self-actualizes that notion by default. You don’t actually want to earn that superiority, you just want to fake it 'til you make it. So, if anything, I would be more inclined to believe that you would rather remove yourself from the situation than take action. Since you’re hardly doing shit even now.
Funnily enough, that’s also why I instantly feel my blood boil when I hear the phrase ‘media literacy’ come out of someone’s mouth: because you can know exactly what the author is saying and talking about but if you feel a different way about it subjectively than the author does then you get treated by the ‘media literacy’ mantoddlers like you must not know, so the effective stance of ‘media literacy’ wanking is that you have to agree with the author or else you must not be able to understand the work.
“I’ve been indoctrinated into becoming anal retentive about insignificant faux pas as if they were were capital crimes and my childhood media didn’t magically alter itself to accommodate the fact that I’m now a basket case because of herd mentality and social programming and it’s said media’s fault for not magically telling what pattern the hemorrhoids that would be artificially implanted on my soul by the new world order would take”
WOah, that wacky emoji totally makes you seem zany and individual and totally not like nearly everything you said is projection and you’re genuinely regurgitating everything you have to say from gay Redditors But yeah, of course, the current Windows update of progressivist bugman morality in a sequence of millions is totally the most in tune with the morality that has always been inherent to humanity even though it’s the first time this exact set of exacting secular-yet-analogous-to-religious tenets that you try to impose on everyone as objective even though your lot will wank intellectually about how everything is subjective, until the next update, then you’ll totally have it this time, won’t you? Or if not, then the next one, then the next one, then the next one, then the next one, and so on. You know, what confuses me is that if this morality is all inherent to to humanity, all ‘just basic human decency’, then why do you have to update it every Saturday on Twitter? Also, you only see me as ‘clinging onto racism’ because you lack the capacity to understand the basic fact that others can have differing views on what is racist, how racist a given thing is, and how much gravity that even has, because again you force your “objective subjective” morality on everyone else and assume that they can’t have different morals than yours because yours are the only morals because its “just basic human deecency”, because your mind lacks the ability to escape the confines of what’s been indoctrinated into it with the same falsetto Anthony Fantano lookalike shouting you’re doing at me, you are literally mentally chained by the legs, but it’s okay, you’re still totally an individual because you say ‘fucking’ at random junctures while sassily shaking your hips with your ‘totally witty’ regurgitated preaching and your googoogaga emoji Yeah, my “same word vomit” is what non-lobotomized people have to say about you REdditors and your insufferable eternal preaching when no one with a functional soul wants to hear abotu it , you lotus-eating homunculus**
You have the gall to call me a Redditor when you do literally everythign a Redditor does, like calling anything outside your wholesomepost babyspeak 'using big wowds to sound smawt bubby!!1 I’m ownwee twee!" and equating not having your prefrontal cortex removed with a diamond saw and whining out the whole Hank Green mantras about race is automatically the same thing as being a full advocate of Jim Crow, plus the ‘THE WEPUBWICANS AWE THE WEAW SNOWFWAKES’ that’s been eaten up, shat out and eaten again a million times over
Also, smartass, I did take a shower, and I’ll have you know I douche as well. Yeah, you pissed me off enough that I seek to burden you with my rectal status.
“Are we just gonna ignore that icky no-no words that all the good lobotomites like me have obediently internalized cause literal harm to people because they were used by meeeean people to be racist and thus the utterance of their syllables are thereby forever ontologically inseparable from genuine racism which as everyone know LITERALLY causes PHYSICAL HARM because it does exist? Doesn’t this line of thinking reduce the SOLEMN and SACRED FEAR we must have, as a divine obligation, at the unholy power of icky mean no-no words?”
The kids on this site aren’t going klan mode because they think orange man has given them permission, they’re doing it because people like you exist