Being hugged

I have a deviant problem where I seek out older women. This comes from some emptiness surrounding me and my mother.

I remember reading Kabi Nagata and she would pay lesbian escorts to hug her since she wasn’t close with her mom. She also mentioned her interest in massages, and how physical touch itself was, in a way, healing.

When I got out of the hospital for suicidal thoughts I had to take DBT classes. It was very boring and I learned little, but they did teach how you can hug yourself to feel better.

I was feeling extremely anxious about something and I just tried it, pretending that someone was hugging me. All of my anxiety just disappeared and I felt a powerful warmth emanating from the parts that I squeezed.

I think that this type of contact may color the personality and effect its development somehow. I’m still thinking about it…

I think this may also be why we like massages. When a mother clutches her baby it’s like she’s fusing with it, or at least as much as she can with a separate body.

I never realized it before but I am touch starved. I always feel “stiff” or “sick” because I haven’t been held by anyone since I was a child. If you pretend that someone is hugging you you start to feel extremely good with a warm sensation (literal warmth) inside of your body. It kind of feels like being injected with a needle, some warm substance. And maybe it’s this lack of physical contact that causes lonely people to die earlier. Physical contact releases oxytocin, which makes you feel warm and good, I just never realized HOW good it feels.

I would never pay for a massage though because I just find that weird. But I wonder if self soothing in this manner could be used to treat personality disorders, such as NPD and BPD, and as well as deviant sexual behaviors (homosexuality, cougarism, etc).

You know, there have been a lot of devices invented for the purpose of providing hugs. I used to have a dog who had a ThunderShirt because he would freak out if there was a storm.

Then there’s Hug™ which is basically a doll for old people that has weighted arms.

And then there’s this thing, that the special kids would use:

And they’re even used for cattle.

I also notice that it doesn’t work with skin-to-skin contact; it has to feel like someone is doing it to you. So it’s best done with a thick sweater or something of that sort.

I’ve started reading this book, it seems relevant to the topic. The author argues that religious experiences come from our desire for parental affirmation.

If I ever hire a prostitute, I’d just spend the time hugging. No sex.

Reading Joseph Nicolosi. I feel already like everyone mentioned including the author is lost but they sense what is happening.

My ideal mom would be someone like Paula Small from Home Movies, who lacks confidence and isn’t very serious. Maybe I’m sick for wanting to be with someone who has self esteem issues, I’m just explaining what I actually feel. It would be nice to be with or raised by someone who doesn’t demand perfection and can actually relate to how you feel.

I think the key is: someone who doesn’t take themselves too seriously.

I think this might also be why cougars are stereotyped as insecure, unserious women. That’s why guys date the cougars and why cougars date the guys.

This might also be why I find Haruko from FLCL so insanely attractive. She doesn’t take herself seriously at all.

And maybe that’s also why I’ve commented in the past that laziness in a woman is attractive; messy hair is attractive.

I payed for a massage once and she started trying to give me a hand job at the end. I stopped her and was upset afterward

As for the topic of the thread, touch, I’ve realized women are so conditional that they make me sick. How can I enjoy being touched by one

This is a big reason why homosexuals choose men. In their eyes, women are too conditional to provide the emotional sustenance that they are craving. The prospect of true intimacy is too exciting to ignore, and so he becomes an autogynephile, starts pretending he’s female (or that his partner is female).

I think what it is is that demanding love from a female is fundamentally wrong. Men are not supposed to crave and desire love. They are supposed to be tough. And so a man who goes out there playing with boys or older women has a serious problem. He wasn’t raised right – wasn’t validated by his parents.

My parents wanted me to be Mr. Eagle Scout. That’s what they saw in me. They didn’t really care about the things about me I consider special.

Identity is that which is rare about a thing. If you don’t validate the special things, you don’t validate the identity. And thus the child grows up craving a special connection that he will never find.

Puppets are disturbing. If you’re into stuff like this, you’re far more likely to be gay, because being gay means that there’s something wrong with the way that you perceive objects. You can think of homosexuality as men with very VERY bad taste in women. They have issues with father or brother, and a man seems perfectly acceptable as a sexual partner – he can use it to vent his frustrations, receive masculine affirmation.

I remember finding a collection of “artwork” from a certain race realist homosexual Youtuber, and it was like contorted 3D figures performing humiliating acts – really creepy stuff. I also knew a lesbian who would draw disturbing pictures of contortionists.

Gay people also have a lower disgust response. They say gross things, enjoy bathroom humor, do their hair up in bizarre colors. And of course, talk and gesture in a creepy way.

Of course, it’s important to remember that sexual feelings override the gross. Having a foot fetish does not indicate a lower disgust response, because feet are sexualized to the fetishist – just as other unsanitary areas of the body are sexualized by a “normal” person.

I am actually super straight, because I am very picky and have a very high disgust response. For example, I do not use a lot of bad words, because they often refer to bathroom stuff which I find disgusting. I also can’t stand pornography, because the poses, lighting, choreography, and clothing are extremely unnatural. I like stuff that’s artistic and tame. Like I find girls taking artsy photos of themselves on Instagram more interesting than a fully naked woman. I also really like illustrations, but unfortunately there are few worthwhile artists.

haruko's feet

But I do have issues with affirmation, so maybe if I had a lower disgust response, a degenerated visual perception, and had issues with my dad I’d be some weird catboy tr^nny or something. I don’t understand affirmation or how it works, but I had serious issues with my mother and now I like moms. (Whereas my sister decided that she was a man). This is not just in a normal sexual way (liking MILFs) but in a way that is emotional. I don’t understand why being screamed at would alter my sexuality. I guess you need male affirmation for masculinity AND female affirmation. My mom was always humiliating /emasculating me, so maybe it’s the “Look at this handsome MAN” thing that I crave from an older lady.

Of course, there is also a more general loneliness. My personality and interests were never affirmed, because people only found that stuff weird or boring. And affirmation on that level, that’s something I definitely crave.

Just listened to this, it’s really fascinating.

The point that really stuck out was when he mentioned that boredom is a homosexual trait. They tend to feel bored around people because they can’t express themselves honestly – they have to conceal their true feelings for whatever reason.

This is how I feel around people, including my parents. I just stay away from them nowadays, but even when I was little I couldn’t bear talking to other kids because they would just talk about their stupid camping trip and then call me annoying or weird when I would talk about my own stuff. So I would just sit around them and listen, and think about something to add. And I didn’t like that.

Thanks for this recommendation. I just went to his website and read something interesting:

Radical shifts in “the discovery of my True Self” are associated, in some such people, with Borderline personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder and gender confusion, since gender identity is built upon an earlier foundation of self-identity. A fragile self-identity makes the later structuring of gender identity particularly perilous.

I wonder if crying flushes out all of the chemicals that are making you upset. And if you don’t cry or “release,” you develop trauma and sexual fetishes.

After all tears come out of the eyes, which are right next to the brain

Apollonian Germ said on Twitter that being exposed to pornography at a very early age can make you hypersexual. I didn’t necessarily agree but then I saw this and idk now

I really do think this stuff is powerful.

I also would suggest that PTSD in humans is related to “guilt,” which is sort of outside of the current liberal paradigm to suggest. But in the famous book, The Body Keeps The Score, the author mentions this multiple times.

I think that, if we take aside the cognitive aspects of PTSD, such as guilt and pessimism about how the human world will conspire to screw us over, the non-cognitive aspects of PTSD are probably no big deal. Basically, our species should have all of the tools we need to handle an isolated, abnormal, random instance of vanilla pain and just move on.

The PTSD probably comes when our “thinking mind” interferes by trying to figure out “why” the pain happened and create a new mental model, where we decide that either the world is hopeless or “I am bad and I should feel bad.” After that, we torment ourselves for our whole lives, with our new, negative mental model.

The current liberal paradigm actually likes guilt. It’s not something people are conscious of…it’s something we can see by questioning our experiences. When you think back, you will see that liberals like to pile-on white guilt. Some examples are, making kids read a lot of guilt-inducing books in school, common and profuse formal apologies, using “humor” to ridicule the types of white people who have historical guilt, and more. And, liberals seem utterly disinterested in developing a program to end white guilt permanently.